The Record note on the meeting of Joint Committee on MACP held on 15.03.2011.

The third meeting of joint committee on MACP was held today i.e 15.03.2011. This meeting was held at the specific request by the Secretary Staff Side, National Council JCM to review the decision taken in the earlier meetings in which all items had been discussed.

Item Nos. 1,3,8,9 and 29:  Grant of financial up-gradation in the promotional hierarchy instead of grade pay hierarchy under MACP Scheme

The Staff Side pressed this demand on the ground that the ACP 1999 had become a service condition in respect of all those who were in service as on 31st August 2008. The MACP Scheme being less advantageous could not be imposed upon them. They stated that to resolve this anomaly, the first 2 ACPs may be continued in the promotional hierarchy to be granted after 12 and 24 years of service from the date of induction, the third ACP on completion of 30 years service may be in the grade pay hierarchy. The official Side did not agree with this proposal. The Staff Side then pointed out that the introduction of MACP Scheme in grade pay hierarchy 10, 20, 30 years of service from the date of induction will result that certain cadres would be placed in the grade pay which are not sanctioned in the structure of the departments and therefore it can not be treated as career progression at all. The official Side wanted the particulars of those cadres which are going to face this problem, so that they could consider how to overcome such anomalies. The Staff Side agreed to provide the necessary information and departments concerned may also be asked to provide such information.

Item Nos. 2, 10 and 48:

The Staff Side also pressed for introducing MACP Scheme with effect from 1.1.2006 so that those who did not get any benefit under old ACP could atleast get the MACP scheme benefit before their retirement during the period from 1.1.2006 to 31.8.2008. The Official Side stated that this item has been closed and concluded and can not be allowed to be opened / reviewed. The Staff Side then stated that they would like to raise this issue in the meeting of National Anomaly Committee as the joint Committee on MACP Scheme is sub committee of the National Anomaly Committee. The Official Side stated that this may be raised as afresh item in the National Anomaly Committee. The Staff Side also wanted that the option to choose ACP or MACP should be given to the individual employees and not the Department. The Official Side also did not agree to reopen this issue which has been concluded in the last meeting.

Item No. 57: Ignoring the placement of Artisans of Ministry of Defence from HS grade II to HS grade I for the purpose of MACP Scheme.

The Staff Side pointed out that this restructuring by keeping 50% of Artisans in the HS grade I and placing 50% in the HS grade II was by way of placement and therefore it could not be treated as promotion. The Staff Side cited Supreme Court ruling to this effect. However the Official Side did not agree with this. The case of restructuring in IA & AD in 1984 and in organized accounts were also cited in which it was clearly stated that those who are in the higher grade would be treated as placement only those who are promoted later on against vacancies would be treated as promotion. The official Side view was that only in those cases where the entire cadre is placed in the higher pay scale it would not be treated as promotion. This matter will also have to be raised in the meeting of National Anomaly Committee.

Items Nos. 11, 15, 22, 39, 47 and 51: Promotion in identical Grade Pay.

The decision that the normal promotions are in the same grade pay, they cannot be ignored for purpose off MACP Scheme and the specific cases would be examined separately.

Item Nos. 12, 30 and 49:  Employees appointed limited competitive examination from lower to higher post may treated as direct recruits in the higher post ignoring the service in the lower posts.

The matter is still being considered with reference to old ACP scheme clarification.

Item Nos. 13, 32, 38, 44, 50 and 58:  Counting of old service in the new establishments for the purpose off MACP. And  Item Nos. 21, 27, and 28:

Benchmark for financial up gradation under MACP. Orders have been issued on 1.11.2010.

It was agreed that action taken statement would be finalized and circulated so that further discussion thereon can take place in the meeting of National Anomaly Committee.

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8 thoughts on “The Record note on the meeting of Joint Committee on MACP held on 15.03.2011.”

  1. Sir, My husband plumber khalasi helper/SSE/iow/sbc was expired on 23.11.2008 while on duty… Whether he is eligible for the MACP benefits.. Please clarify sir…

  2. One of my colleague was in the Grade Pay Rs.1,900/- as Asst. Store Keeper and has been selected for the post of Store Keeper with Grade Pay Rs.2,400/- upon technical resignation he has assumed the duties in Feb. Whether he is eligible for increment as he has crossed the minimum pay of Rs.5,200/- and is present in the basic pay of Rs.7,300/-. Please clarify.

    Regards
    Rajiv

  3. After implementation of macp, JE’s of CWC ( Central Water Commission)who had completed 24 year service before 01.09.2008 are getting Rs 5400 Grade Pay whereas after 01.09.2008 are getting Rs. 4800.After completion of 30 years service they will get Rs. 6600 Grade Pay (macp III) and we will get Rs. 5400 grade Pay ( macpIII). In the same post Grade pay’s are different.What is the way to solve the such type of anomaly in grade pay in the same post of Junior Engineer of CWC?.

  4. Subramaniam Raju

    Sir,

    I joined Govt service as Class I officer in the year June 1986 (Pre revised scale 8000 – 13500) and I got first promotion in the year Jan 1992 (Pre revised scale 10000-15200). After that I submitted technical resignation and joined the same department in next higher grade (Pre revised scale 12000 – 16500) in the year Oct 1994 in different cadre. I got next promotion in the year May 2000 (Pre revised scale 14300 – 18300, Now revised scale 37400 – 67000 with grade Pay 8700/-). I am in the same post for the last 10 year 10 months and so far not got the Promotion due to flaws in the Existing RRs and they have been submitted to DoPT for approval of amendments, which is awaited. I am officiating the duties of next higher post for the last 5 years i.e. Payscale 37400 – 67000 grade pay 8900/-. Can you please inform me whether I am eligible for Modified Assured Career Progression scheme. Also clarify how can I get my promotion.

  5. In Ministry of I&B,in departments like Films Division etc., the cadres of LDC-UDC-Head Clerk’s grade pays are 1900, 2400, 4200 correspondingly. When the MACP upgradation is given, an unprecedented grade pay of Rs.2800 is given. This grade pay of Rs.2800 is not granted in the structure of ministerial cadre of LDC,UDC,Head Clerks of the department and therefore it cannot be treated as career progression at all. In the old ACP Scheme, second ACP up gradation was given to RS.4200. But in the new MACP Scheme Rs.2800 grade pay is given instead of 4200.This anomaly must be solved positively.

  6. MALLIKARJUNAPPA

    Respected Sir,
    Persons, who have retired (between Jan 2006 and Sep 2008) before 2nd ACP but after completing 20 years of service, are not getting any benefit (neither ACP nor MACP). At least 2nd MACP should be applicable for such persons with effect from 01/01/2006. This point may please be considered in the anomaly meeting.
    (Mallikarjunappa B)
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    A10/1, Salunke Vihar,
    PUNE-411022
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  7. Disparity in the grade pay of Library Information Assistants (LIA), after implementation of 6th CPC in comparison to school Librarians.

    Though we are EQUALLY QUALIFIED, we are getting grade pay of Rs. 4200/-.unlike school librarians,TGT and Physical Education Teachers are placed in the grade pay of Rs.4600/-. (!)
    So we may be considered to be placed in the grade pay of Rs. 4600/-

    Regards.

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